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	<title>Comments on: Civic Leaders Allege Housing Discrimination by Town</title>
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		<title>By: Steve Downs</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2013/01/civic-leaders-allege-housing-discrimination-by-town/#comment-5410</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Downs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 17:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s just this simple: an apartment owner cannot be forced to accept 8A tenants.
An apartment owner cannot discriminate when selecting renters. 
If you can afford it, you should be welcome.
If you can&#039;t, don&#039;t waste the apartment owners time and expense doing research on your financial qualifications.
Simple!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s just this simple: an apartment owner cannot be forced to accept 8A tenants.<br />
An apartment owner cannot discriminate when selecting renters.<br />
If you can afford it, you should be welcome.<br />
If you can&#8217;t, don&#8217;t waste the apartment owners time and expense doing research on your financial qualifications.<br />
Simple!</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Finney</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2013/01/civic-leaders-allege-housing-discrimination-by-town/#comment-5330</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Finney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 00:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why, yes, I WAS referring to the piece on American Thinker, and I&#039;m not sure how Rush Limbaugh feels about it, actually.   After having read 2 of de Jouvenel&#039;s books, I did not find him to be a fascist. I found him to be pro-liberty, actually. Perhaps you got the idea that he was a fascist from Wikipedia?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why, yes, I WAS referring to the piece on American Thinker, and I&#8217;m not sure how Rush Limbaugh feels about it, actually.   After having read 2 of de Jouvenel&#8217;s books, I did not find him to be a fascist. I found him to be pro-liberty, actually. Perhaps you got the idea that he was a fascist from Wikipedia?</p>
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		<title>By: Dana Lascu</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2013/01/civic-leaders-allege-housing-discrimination-by-town/#comment-5320</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dana Lascu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are referring us to &quot;American Thinker&quot; drivel? Seriously? This website has been trying since 2004 to prove that its name is an oxymoron. But Rush Limbaugh would approve....

The &quot;excellent essay on the topic of wealth redistribution&quot; is written by a guy who calls himself The Eloquent Professor. Here is a sample:

&quot;It then becomes apparent that the state worshiping eye, occupied with the misdirection of trumpeted social justice platitudes and the self-interested anticipatory largesse secured through brigandage of the wealthier nodes of society, does not apprehend the subterranean institutions that a regime must set into motion for the mechanics of redistribution to occur.&quot;

By the way, the article&#039;s main source and inspiration, Bertrand de Jouvenel, was a fascist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are referring us to &#8220;American Thinker&#8221; drivel? Seriously? This website has been trying since 2004 to prove that its name is an oxymoron. But Rush Limbaugh would approve&#8230;.</p>
<p>The &#8220;excellent essay on the topic of wealth redistribution&#8221; is written by a guy who calls himself The Eloquent Professor. Here is a sample:</p>
<p>&#8220;It then becomes apparent that the state worshiping eye, occupied with the misdirection of trumpeted social justice platitudes and the self-interested anticipatory largesse secured through brigandage of the wealthier nodes of society, does not apprehend the subterranean institutions that a regime must set into motion for the mechanics of redistribution to occur.&#8221;</p>
<p>By the way, the article&#8217;s main source and inspiration, Bertrand de Jouvenel, was a fascist.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Finney</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2013/01/civic-leaders-allege-housing-discrimination-by-town/#comment-5278</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Finney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I could spend an hour composing a rebuttal to the liberal leaning &quot;social justice&quot; cheerleaders I seemed to have riled up with my earlier comments, it&#039;s easier to direct them to an excellent essay on the topic of wealth redistribution, even though I have my doubts as to whether they will take the time to read it:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/01/the_lupine_socialist_dream.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&amp;utm_medium=facebook#ixzz2JSqdSbtk

And yes, I realize the above article doesn&#039;t exactly focus on the idea of &quot;social justice.&quot;  I could spend another hour explaining exactly why I found it chuckle-worthy, but as they say, &quot;brevity is the soul of wit&quot; and if it has to be explained to you, then you wouldn&#039;t understand the point anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I could spend an hour composing a rebuttal to the liberal leaning &#8220;social justice&#8221; cheerleaders I seemed to have riled up with my earlier comments, it&#8217;s easier to direct them to an excellent essay on the topic of wealth redistribution, even though I have my doubts as to whether they will take the time to read it:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/01/the_lupine_socialist_dream.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&#038;utm_medium=facebook#ixzz2JSqdSbtk" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/01/the_lupine_socialist_dream.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&#038;utm_medium=facebook#ixzz2JSqdSbtk</a></p>
<p>And yes, I realize the above article doesn&#8217;t exactly focus on the idea of &#8220;social justice.&#8221;  I could spend another hour explaining exactly why I found it chuckle-worthy, but as they say, &#8220;brevity is the soul of wit&#8221; and if it has to be explained to you, then you wouldn&#8217;t understand the point anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah Bender</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2013/01/civic-leaders-allege-housing-discrimination-by-town/#comment-5026</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah Bender]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 12:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You better believe this was hush hush!  The town officials met in secret for over 6 months before any of the citizens knew what was going on.  There was no auction. They  &quot;sold&quot; the building for $10.  Old School Cape Charles offered $10,000 and the town council never even voted or discussed that proposal !

This whole deal was underhanded beyond belief.  The town also used spot zoning, which by the way is unlawful, and went against their own comprehensive plan.

Town officials will say that the building was dilapidated.  Yet another law broken because the town never kept the building in good repair which is also breaking their own code!

This whole deal reeks and everyone knows it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You better believe this was hush hush!  The town officials met in secret for over 6 months before any of the citizens knew what was going on.  There was no auction. They  &#8220;sold&#8221; the building for $10.  Old School Cape Charles offered $10,000 and the town council never even voted or discussed that proposal !</p>
<p>This whole deal was underhanded beyond belief.  The town also used spot zoning, which by the way is unlawful, and went against their own comprehensive plan.</p>
<p>Town officials will say that the building was dilapidated.  Yet another law broken because the town never kept the building in good repair which is also breaking their own code!</p>
<p>This whole deal reeks and everyone knows it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Breeze</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Breeze]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 04:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t see anything about forced, I did see this for Social Justice: The fair and proper administration of laws conforming to the natural law that all persons, irrespective of ethnic origin, gender, possessions, race, religion, etc., are to be treated equally and without prejudice.
Social justice is defined as justice exercised within a society, particularly as it is exercised by and among the various social classes of that society.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see anything about forced, I did see this for Social Justice: The fair and proper administration of laws conforming to the natural law that all persons, irrespective of ethnic origin, gender, possessions, race, religion, etc., are to be treated equally and without prejudice.<br />
Social justice is defined as justice exercised within a society, particularly as it is exercised by and among the various social classes of that society.</p>
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		<title>By: John Pritchett</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2013/01/civic-leaders-allege-housing-discrimination-by-town/#comment-5001</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Pritchett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 18:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s strange how a property can be sold at &quot;auction&quot; for $10 and valued at $921,000. This should have been a public auction, where other investors could have had an opportunity to outbid the only bidder. Was this listed with an auction company, and advertised throughout the state, and on the Internet? It seems that it was kept pretty hushed. I would have brought in other investors, and gladly invested more than $10, and not gotten the federal government involved, and HUD, Section 8, and other sanctions. The owner of Echelon, Edwin Gaskin, is the Economic Development Director in Hanover County, Virginia.

All Board members should have been in place for their term, prior to voting on this issue. If the old board members were still in office, they should have been the ones to vote on this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s strange how a property can be sold at &#8220;auction&#8221; for $10 and valued at $921,000. This should have been a public auction, where other investors could have had an opportunity to outbid the only bidder. Was this listed with an auction company, and advertised throughout the state, and on the Internet? It seems that it was kept pretty hushed. I would have brought in other investors, and gladly invested more than $10, and not gotten the federal government involved, and HUD, Section 8, and other sanctions. The owner of Echelon, Edwin Gaskin, is the Economic Development Director in Hanover County, Virginia.</p>
<p>All Board members should have been in place for their term, prior to voting on this issue. If the old board members were still in office, they should have been the ones to vote on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Veann Duvall</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2013/01/civic-leaders-allege-housing-discrimination-by-town/#comment-4986</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Veann Duvall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 13:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The last comment talks about individual property rights. The park property that was given away used to be owned by all the citizens of Cape Charles. Six individuals gave it away, and three of them weren&#039;t even re-elected. That property was valued at $921,000, and they gave it away for $10. Now the developer wants to get tax credits on top of getting a free building. But the comment is worried about &quot;individual property rights!&quot; Giving the building away to a developer, and giving the developer tax credits, is not a government subsidy? And allowing individuals who get government housing subsidies to live in apartments built with government subsidies is an infringement on &quot;individual property rights&quot;?

Why did I laugh when I read that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last comment talks about individual property rights. The park property that was given away used to be owned by all the citizens of Cape Charles. Six individuals gave it away, and three of them weren&#8217;t even re-elected. That property was valued at $921,000, and they gave it away for $10. Now the developer wants to get tax credits on top of getting a free building. But the comment is worried about &#8220;individual property rights!&#8221; Giving the building away to a developer, and giving the developer tax credits, is not a government subsidy? And allowing individuals who get government housing subsidies to live in apartments built with government subsidies is an infringement on &#8220;individual property rights&#8221;?</p>
<p>Why did I laugh when I read that?</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Finney</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2013/01/civic-leaders-allege-housing-discrimination-by-town/#comment-4983</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Finney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 11:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In answer to Dan Breeze&#039;s comments, here is a thumbnail definition of &quot;Social Justice&quot;:  Forced redistribution of wealth with a hostility toward INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS, under the guise of charity and/or justice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In answer to Dan Breeze&#8217;s comments, here is a thumbnail definition of &#8220;Social Justice&#8221;:  Forced redistribution of wealth with a hostility toward INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS, under the guise of charity and/or justice.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Breeze</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2013/01/civic-leaders-allege-housing-discrimination-by-town/#comment-4940</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Breeze]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 20:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t understand: If someone buys a building and decides to make apartments, then that person HAS to allow government-subsidised renters? Obviously, you can get grants/loans from the government and not allow government subsidised renters, or else they would not have gotten the loans/grants. I would think that when these apartments are built, whoever built them will be able to rent them to whomever they choose. If rent is $1500 per month then I guess you can live there provided you pay the required $1500 per month. If not I guess you will have to live somewhere else. If this was known for some time, why wasn&#039;t the alarm raised then? Why wait until now to call foul?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand: If someone buys a building and decides to make apartments, then that person HAS to allow government-subsidised renters? Obviously, you can get grants/loans from the government and not allow government subsidised renters, or else they would not have gotten the loans/grants. I would think that when these apartments are built, whoever built them will be able to rent them to whomever they choose. If rent is $1500 per month then I guess you can live there provided you pay the required $1500 per month. If not I guess you will have to live somewhere else. If this was known for some time, why wasn&#8217;t the alarm raised then? Why wait until now to call foul?</p>
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