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	<title>Comments on: COMMENTARY: Wake Up and Trim the Fat, Cape Charles!</title>
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		<title>By: Ed DeAngelis</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2013/05/commentary-wake-up-and-trim-the-fat-cape-charles/#comment-13475</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed DeAngelis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jun 2013 18:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ms. Bender is on the right track -- Cape Charles is way too heavy at the top. When i renovated back in 1998 there was only one code enforcement person. There was a lot happening then but he got the job done. Too many cooks can spoil the stew and cause confusion in the kitchen!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms. Bender is on the right track &#8212; Cape Charles is way too heavy at the top. When i renovated back in 1998 there was only one code enforcement person. There was a lot happening then but he got the job done. Too many cooks can spoil the stew and cause confusion in the kitchen!</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah Bender</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2013/05/commentary-wake-up-and-trim-the-fat-cape-charles/#comment-12450</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah Bender]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 20:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Roger: I lived in Onancock at one time. I added a garage on my property. The town came out to see if I was putting it in the right location and then the Accomack County building inspector took over.  Here is my point: we are all paying taxes for a building inspector in Northampton but still we pay to have our own inspector.  As I said before, when there was a lot of building going on I can see why the town hired their own inspector, but that day is gone.  Our building code enforcer doesn&#039;t pull in enough to come anywhere near what we are paying him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger: I lived in Onancock at one time. I added a garage on my property. The town came out to see if I was putting it in the right location and then the Accomack County building inspector took over.  Here is my point: we are all paying taxes for a building inspector in Northampton but still we pay to have our own inspector.  As I said before, when there was a lot of building going on I can see why the town hired their own inspector, but that day is gone.  Our building code enforcer doesn&#8217;t pull in enough to come anywhere near what we are paying him.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Day</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Day]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 19:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Totally agree with Ms. Bender, except for the building code enforcer.  Cape Charles does have a building code, while Onancock probably doesn&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree with Ms. Bender, except for the building code enforcer.  Cape Charles does have a building code, while Onancock probably doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Wilt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jill Wilt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 21:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Comparing Apples To Pork

I am a resident of Onancock and a friend to Cape Charles.

While Ms. Bender has the correct idea,- wear multiple hats and trim fat. It seems to me there is room for further study.

The data used within the confines of any financial comparison need to be commensurable.  We need to compare apples to apples.

Numbers can be a tricky game.  At a glance it appears the loser of the fat category based on avg salary alone is Onancock at 65,000. while the leaner Cape Charles comes in at a laudable avg salary of $50,000.   But this doesn&#039;t tell the whole story does it.  We need to break it out further- what pay with commensurate experience and certification.   

Ms. Bender is on the right track, let&#039;s just do a bit more homework before any one town is held up for emulation or any jobs are slashed.

I love my town of Onancock but it&#039;s has had it&#039;s share of pork and of suet. It&#039;s most recently been lambasted for hiring the Attorney Deborah refers to in her article.  Onancock&#039;s  &quot;expert out of towner&quot;  (play on words - he took the job and refuses to live here in the town he manages)  has been given a salary nearly double that of the previous town manger.  He also receives benefits the previous manager did not.  Defending this town manager has turned out to be an expensive proposition for our small town. Certainly more costly in legal fees than any realized savings in salary. 

Further consideration should be given to the influx of part time residents and tourism which  is significantly higher in Cape Charles and puts further burden on town administration and public works.  

And finally ethics.  We may desire to trim the fat - but first let&#039;s find out exactly what that fat is.  Some towns decided basic health care and a decent salary for most of their public works employees were fat.  These hard working folks deserve better - both down and up the road. 

Thanks for the soap box.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comparing Apples To Pork</p>
<p>I am a resident of Onancock and a friend to Cape Charles.</p>
<p>While Ms. Bender has the correct idea,- wear multiple hats and trim fat. It seems to me there is room for further study.</p>
<p>The data used within the confines of any financial comparison need to be commensurable.  We need to compare apples to apples.</p>
<p>Numbers can be a tricky game.  At a glance it appears the loser of the fat category based on avg salary alone is Onancock at 65,000. while the leaner Cape Charles comes in at a laudable avg salary of $50,000.   But this doesn&#8217;t tell the whole story does it.  We need to break it out further- what pay with commensurate experience and certification.   </p>
<p>Ms. Bender is on the right track, let&#8217;s just do a bit more homework before any one town is held up for emulation or any jobs are slashed.</p>
<p>I love my town of Onancock but it&#8217;s has had it&#8217;s share of pork and of suet. It&#8217;s most recently been lambasted for hiring the Attorney Deborah refers to in her article.  Onancock&#8217;s  &#8220;expert out of towner&#8221;  (play on words &#8211; he took the job and refuses to live here in the town he manages)  has been given a salary nearly double that of the previous town manger.  He also receives benefits the previous manager did not.  Defending this town manager has turned out to be an expensive proposition for our small town. Certainly more costly in legal fees than any realized savings in salary. </p>
<p>Further consideration should be given to the influx of part time residents and tourism which  is significantly higher in Cape Charles and puts further burden on town administration and public works.  </p>
<p>And finally ethics.  We may desire to trim the fat &#8211; but first let&#8217;s find out exactly what that fat is.  Some towns decided basic health care and a decent salary for most of their public works employees were fat.  These hard working folks deserve better &#8211; both down and up the road. </p>
<p>Thanks for the soap box.</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine Nottingham</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2013/05/commentary-wake-up-and-trim-the-fat-cape-charles/#comment-11806</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Catherine Nottingham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 12:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Debbie Bender for Mayor!

Any successful businessperson applauds Debbie for continuing the fight over the obvious waste and ignorance. 
I gave up on those &quot;sitting in their own dirty diaper&quot; several years ago.

I&#039;m back to work wearing 6 hats --7 days a week.  

SUCCESS DOES NOT HAPPEN BY ACCIDENT.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debbie Bender for Mayor!</p>
<p>Any successful businessperson applauds Debbie for continuing the fight over the obvious waste and ignorance.<br />
I gave up on those &#8220;sitting in their own dirty diaper&#8221; several years ago.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m back to work wearing 6 hats &#8211;7 days a week.  </p>
<p>SUCCESS DOES NOT HAPPEN BY ACCIDENT.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Kelly</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2013/05/commentary-wake-up-and-trim-the-fat-cape-charles/#comment-11764</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gene Kelly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 21:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HMMMMM! Does give one some pause for thought!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HMMMMM! Does give one some pause for thought!</p>
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		<title>By: Judy McKnight</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2013/05/commentary-wake-up-and-trim-the-fat-cape-charles/#comment-11747</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Judy McKnight]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 16:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a mere Cape Charles “property owner for 10 years,” I really have no recourse to deal with my frustrations about the issues surrounding “Old School Cape Charles,”  the bathrooms planned for the park, and now this comparison of the costs of governing of Cape Charles vs. the cost of governing Onancock. My only choices are to live with the state of affairs in Cape Charles or sell my beloved “get-away” home, where I spend about half my time.  

So, I will to be polite, pay my taxes and fees, keep up my property, be a good neighbor, support causes I believe in, and hope that in the future, the town government will be more open to and accepting of citizen hopes, expectations, and input.  For in the end, I just don’t want to believe that anything deceitful or selfish or illegal is going on here.

Or, I could consider my father’s advice of many years ago. “Instead of complaining about them, on election day, just vote the scoundrels out!”  Hummmmm.  That is something to consider, even though it would require me to change my official residency.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a mere Cape Charles “property owner for 10 years,” I really have no recourse to deal with my frustrations about the issues surrounding “Old School Cape Charles,”  the bathrooms planned for the park, and now this comparison of the costs of governing of Cape Charles vs. the cost of governing Onancock. My only choices are to live with the state of affairs in Cape Charles or sell my beloved “get-away” home, where I spend about half my time.  </p>
<p>So, I will to be polite, pay my taxes and fees, keep up my property, be a good neighbor, support causes I believe in, and hope that in the future, the town government will be more open to and accepting of citizen hopes, expectations, and input.  For in the end, I just don’t want to believe that anything deceitful or selfish or illegal is going on here.</p>
<p>Or, I could consider my father’s advice of many years ago. “Instead of complaining about them, on election day, just vote the scoundrels out!”  Hummmmm.  That is something to consider, even though it would require me to change my official residency.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Hallerman</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2013/05/commentary-wake-up-and-trim-the-fat-cape-charles/#comment-11744</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anne Hallerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 14:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This letter makes good points about streamlining local government infrastructure.  That is a good practice regardless of the current fiscal condition.  Perhaps the town infrastructure expanded in anticipation of a larger population from the Bay Creek developments, which, as we know, has not been realized.  I think the heady days of the real estate boom and the subsequent bust impacted Cape Charles much more than they impacted Onancock.  I would not want Cape Charles to compromise essential services but if there are ways to streamline, then by all means, they should be implemented.  

My one suggestion to the Cape Charles &quot;watchdogs&quot; who comprise much of the Wave activity: Stop tying all of your observations and good suggestions back to the Old School incident and that basketball court. If you truly want to improve Cape Charles, make suggestions absent of your frustrations with that effort. They would carry a lot more weight with the readership in general, and perhaps with the town leaders.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This letter makes good points about streamlining local government infrastructure.  That is a good practice regardless of the current fiscal condition.  Perhaps the town infrastructure expanded in anticipation of a larger population from the Bay Creek developments, which, as we know, has not been realized.  I think the heady days of the real estate boom and the subsequent bust impacted Cape Charles much more than they impacted Onancock.  I would not want Cape Charles to compromise essential services but if there are ways to streamline, then by all means, they should be implemented.  </p>
<p>My one suggestion to the Cape Charles &#8220;watchdogs&#8221; who comprise much of the Wave activity: Stop tying all of your observations and good suggestions back to the Old School incident and that basketball court. If you truly want to improve Cape Charles, make suggestions absent of your frustrations with that effort. They would carry a lot more weight with the readership in general, and perhaps with the town leaders.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas D. Giese</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2013/05/commentary-wake-up-and-trim-the-fat-cape-charles/#comment-11732</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas D. Giese]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 11:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DEBORAH BENDER should be running Cape Charles. If her figures are accurate, and I have no reason to doubt them, the people running Cape Charles have a lot of explaining to do to the taxpayers. This is an outrage, and someone needs to be held accountable. This is worse than the federal government, which I thought was impossible. DEBORAH BENDER for citizen of the year.

Re: The basketball court. If there were a vacant lot next to my house, I would love to have a basketball court next to me!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DEBORAH BENDER should be running Cape Charles. If her figures are accurate, and I have no reason to doubt them, the people running Cape Charles have a lot of explaining to do to the taxpayers. This is an outrage, and someone needs to be held accountable. This is worse than the federal government, which I thought was impossible. DEBORAH BENDER for citizen of the year.</p>
<p>Re: The basketball court. If there were a vacant lot next to my house, I would love to have a basketball court next to me!</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah Bender</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2013/05/commentary-wake-up-and-trim-the-fat-cape-charles/#comment-11694</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah Bender]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 03:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do want to clarify one thing.  The town of Onancock does not pick up their own trash anymore. The town has a contract with Davis Disposal and guess what?  Each house pays $2 per month.  Why are the citizens of Cape Charles paying $14?

Just sayin....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do want to clarify one thing.  The town of Onancock does not pick up their own trash anymore. The town has a contract with Davis Disposal and guess what?  Each house pays $2 per month.  Why are the citizens of Cape Charles paying $14?</p>
<p>Just sayin&#8230;.</p>
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