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	<title>Comments on: Mayor Proto Flip-Flops on County Sewage Issue</title>
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		<title>By: David Boyd</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2014/09/mayor-proto-flip-flops-on-county-sewage-issue/#comment-103760</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Boyd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2014 18:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t know if anyone has looked at the Hurt and Profitt report presented to the Board of Supervisors meeting last week. It has a map of the tax parcels included in the Route 13 sewer district along with their reply to the survey on whether they wanted to be included in the proposed sewer expansion. Looks to be something like a hundred parcels who were solicited for inclusion. Of all those polled, a total of 15 responded. 4 of the respondents were in favor of being included and 11 were against it. Let&#039;s see, survey is sent out, gets a response rate of 15%, of that 15%, only 25% are in favor of the proposal. 

That on top of resounding, almost unanimous opposition to this pipe dream expressed in the Cheriton and BOS meetings last year, followed by tossing out the Chairman of the BOS and the Chairman of the PSA. 

Is it not abundantly clear what the public thinks of this boondoggle?

Oh, and by the way, Bob Panek thinks that &quot;Per capita cost is one interesting metric, but we do not believe it is appropriate for evaluating the proposed project&#039;&quot;. 

In other words, the political appointees don&#039;t care how much it costs you and I. Seems to me it&#039;s time for some public accountability.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know if anyone has looked at the Hurt and Profitt report presented to the Board of Supervisors meeting last week. It has a map of the tax parcels included in the Route 13 sewer district along with their reply to the survey on whether they wanted to be included in the proposed sewer expansion. Looks to be something like a hundred parcels who were solicited for inclusion. Of all those polled, a total of 15 responded. 4 of the respondents were in favor of being included and 11 were against it. Let&#8217;s see, survey is sent out, gets a response rate of 15%, of that 15%, only 25% are in favor of the proposal. </p>
<p>That on top of resounding, almost unanimous opposition to this pipe dream expressed in the Cheriton and BOS meetings last year, followed by tossing out the Chairman of the BOS and the Chairman of the PSA. </p>
<p>Is it not abundantly clear what the public thinks of this boondoggle?</p>
<p>Oh, and by the way, Bob Panek thinks that &#8220;Per capita cost is one interesting metric, but we do not believe it is appropriate for evaluating the proposed project'&#8221;. </p>
<p>In other words, the political appointees don&#8217;t care how much it costs you and I. Seems to me it&#8217;s time for some public accountability.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby Roberts</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2014/09/mayor-proto-flip-flops-on-county-sewage-issue/#comment-103747</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bobby Roberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2014 17:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In response to the person who wants to know who&#039;s paying for the sewer pipes from Rt. 13---you are.  Months ago the county said they&#039;d create a Special Tax District for those pipes, then said they&#039;d raise taxes for the whole county to fund the Tax District.  So Cape Charles property owners will get their taxes raised to help pay for the pipes, that will allow more business on Rt 13, that will probably kill the downtown commercial district.  So tell me again, how does Cape Charles benefit from all this?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to the person who wants to know who&#8217;s paying for the sewer pipes from Rt. 13&#8212;you are.  Months ago the county said they&#8217;d create a Special Tax District for those pipes, then said they&#8217;d raise taxes for the whole county to fund the Tax District.  So Cape Charles property owners will get their taxes raised to help pay for the pipes, that will allow more business on Rt 13, that will probably kill the downtown commercial district.  So tell me again, how does Cape Charles benefit from all this?</p>
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		<title>By: Don Riley</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2014/09/mayor-proto-flip-flops-on-county-sewage-issue/#comment-103683</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Riley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2014 22:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I expected more of a common sense approach from the candy man. I guess it is business as usual. Hire Frank Wendell for Town Manager!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I expected more of a common sense approach from the candy man. I guess it is business as usual. Hire Frank Wendell for Town Manager!</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah Bender</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2014/09/mayor-proto-flip-flops-on-county-sewage-issue/#comment-103682</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah Bender]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2014 22:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From what I have read Mayor Proto is more worried about dogs on the beach than worrying about the rising debt the town is going into day by day.  If he believes the report about salaries and more employees needed he is following Mayor Sullivan&#039;s lead. The current Council (excluding Frank Wendell) is dying to blow the annexation agreement and they have been for a long time.  I for one would like to know who is going to pay for all the pipes and whatever else is needed to make Bob Panek&#039;s dreams come true?  The town already spent a boatload of money running pipes into the development across from my house and I believe five houses are in there. Another one of Dickie Foster&#039;s pipe dreams.  How much money can this town throw away on the PSA?  

I have seen with my own two eyes what happens to towns on the Eastern Shore when the strip malls go up.  It kills the towns.  Wake up Cape Charles business owners and fight the pipe or you will suffer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I have read Mayor Proto is more worried about dogs on the beach than worrying about the rising debt the town is going into day by day.  If he believes the report about salaries and more employees needed he is following Mayor Sullivan&#8217;s lead. The current Council (excluding Frank Wendell) is dying to blow the annexation agreement and they have been for a long time.  I for one would like to know who is going to pay for all the pipes and whatever else is needed to make Bob Panek&#8217;s dreams come true?  The town already spent a boatload of money running pipes into the development across from my house and I believe five houses are in there. Another one of Dickie Foster&#8217;s pipe dreams.  How much money can this town throw away on the PSA?  </p>
<p>I have seen with my own two eyes what happens to towns on the Eastern Shore when the strip malls go up.  It kills the towns.  Wake up Cape Charles business owners and fight the pipe or you will suffer.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Creed</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2014/09/mayor-proto-flip-flops-on-county-sewage-issue/#comment-103659</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wayne Creed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2014 18:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That pesky Annexation agreement with Brown &amp; Root just won’t go away. Panek’s full court press to run pipe out to the highway hardly seems altruistic, and instead seems  to be more an effort to deflect the shame and embarrasement  caused by his waste water blunders—but there’s something else. According to the so-called ‘legal opinion’ posted here (is this a legitimate legal opinion, or did they just download it from Legal Zoom?), if we do run pipe out to the road, and the excess use forces expansion, than Bay Creek is off the hook, as it would render the annexation agreement meaningless. This is a very dangerous game, even for Bay Creek. If the new Rt. 13 development pushes the plant towards capacity, how will Bay Creek address the need for additional plant expansion, which will be required for the remaining phases of the gated community’s build out? Who will pay for the additional expansion? If it’s Bay Creek, the $5 million they could have paid up front to cover the need for ‘future’ growth, may now triple. Of course, that won’t happen—in the end, the hapless citizens of old Cape Charles will have their pockets pilfered to pay for reinforcing the iron gates, as well as defaming what’s left of the Eastern Shore.

Side Note: It would appear that the existence of Bay Creek’s plans for future expansion would have been enough to trigger the annexation agreement, so why didn’t the Town pursue this in the courts? The Town spent almost $100,000.00 fighting a local grass roots community group that only wanted to keep the old school public, so why wouldn’t they have defended their end of the deal in court when the stakes were so high? Joe Vaccaro seemed game for the fight, but then he was mysteriously fired. Had the town won, it would have wiped out our debt, and we wouldn’t have to be pursuing these stupid PSA dreams just to salve the blisters on Panek’s metaphorical rear end. Who diverted the Town away from this effort and why?

In this town, the disappointments never seem to end. We had some hopes for Proto (of course, we’ve learned to severely curb our enthusiasm), but he’s turned out to be a bit too much like his predecessor. Like Eminem says, “Look, if you had one shot, one opportunity, to seize everything you ever wanted-one moment, would you capture it or just let it slip?”

We still want to give Mayor Proto the benefit of the doubt, but our advice is to stop listening to them and do what you know in your heart is the right thing (at least what your friends in the business community expected when they elected you). 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That pesky Annexation agreement with Brown &amp; Root just won’t go away. Panek’s full court press to run pipe out to the highway hardly seems altruistic, and instead seems  to be more an effort to deflect the shame and embarrasement  caused by his waste water blunders—but there’s something else. According to the so-called ‘legal opinion’ posted here (is this a legitimate legal opinion, or did they just download it from Legal Zoom?), if we do run pipe out to the road, and the excess use forces expansion, than Bay Creek is off the hook, as it would render the annexation agreement meaningless. This is a very dangerous game, even for Bay Creek. If the new Rt. 13 development pushes the plant towards capacity, how will Bay Creek address the need for additional plant expansion, which will be required for the remaining phases of the gated community’s build out? Who will pay for the additional expansion? If it’s Bay Creek, the $5 million they could have paid up front to cover the need for ‘future’ growth, may now triple. Of course, that won’t happen—in the end, the hapless citizens of old Cape Charles will have their pockets pilfered to pay for reinforcing the iron gates, as well as defaming what’s left of the Eastern Shore.</p>
<p>Side Note: It would appear that the existence of Bay Creek’s plans for future expansion would have been enough to trigger the annexation agreement, so why didn’t the Town pursue this in the courts? The Town spent almost $100,000.00 fighting a local grass roots community group that only wanted to keep the old school public, so why wouldn’t they have defended their end of the deal in court when the stakes were so high? Joe Vaccaro seemed game for the fight, but then he was mysteriously fired. Had the town won, it would have wiped out our debt, and we wouldn’t have to be pursuing these stupid PSA dreams just to salve the blisters on Panek’s metaphorical rear end. Who diverted the Town away from this effort and why?</p>
<p>In this town, the disappointments never seem to end. We had some hopes for Proto (of course, we’ve learned to severely curb our enthusiasm), but he’s turned out to be a bit too much like his predecessor. Like Eminem says, “Look, if you had one shot, one opportunity, to seize everything you ever wanted-one moment, would you capture it or just let it slip?”</p>
<p>We still want to give Mayor Proto the benefit of the doubt, but our advice is to stop listening to them and do what you know in your heart is the right thing (at least what your friends in the business community expected when they elected you). </p>
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		<title>By: Kearn Schemm</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2014/09/mayor-proto-flip-flops-on-county-sewage-issue/#comment-103587</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kearn Schemm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2014 12:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris Bannon is outright wrong in his statement, &quot; If the town takes off we have cutesy stores that are seasonal. The bigger stores will go out to the county. We’ll have our little shops.”  

The facts are different.   Anyone who gets into the habit of going to &quot;bigger stores&quot; (Walmart? Target?)  on 13 will simply do all their shopping in one place, why come back into the &quot;cutesy shops&quot; to pay higher prices?.  The &quot;bigger stores&quot; can carry &quot;cutesy&quot; things as easily as the rest of their inventory.  Development on 13 will kill our small shops.  

In a Town Hall meeting last Saturday,  Mayor Proto indicated that if properties on 13 were connected to our plant, we might see a reduction in our bills of 1 or 2 dollars.  Is a maximum theoretical benefit of $24 per year worth killing our business district?  IN fairness to the new Mayor, I got the impression that he was skeptical of the PSA hook-up dream.  Let&#039;s hope I am right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Bannon is outright wrong in his statement, &#8221; If the town takes off we have cutesy stores that are seasonal. The bigger stores will go out to the county. We’ll have our little shops.”  </p>
<p>The facts are different.   Anyone who gets into the habit of going to &#8220;bigger stores&#8221; (Walmart? Target?)  on 13 will simply do all their shopping in one place, why come back into the &#8220;cutesy shops&#8221; to pay higher prices?.  The &#8220;bigger stores&#8221; can carry &#8220;cutesy&#8221; things as easily as the rest of their inventory.  Development on 13 will kill our small shops.  </p>
<p>In a Town Hall meeting last Saturday,  Mayor Proto indicated that if properties on 13 were connected to our plant, we might see a reduction in our bills of 1 or 2 dollars.  Is a maximum theoretical benefit of $24 per year worth killing our business district?  IN fairness to the new Mayor, I got the impression that he was skeptical of the PSA hook-up dream.  Let&#8217;s hope I am right.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Baumann</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pete Baumann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2014 12:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve always favored commercial development out by the light on Rt. 13.  I wouldn&#039;t increase commercial zoning, but I would utilize what is available to extent that it is built out.  The main reason is that I think it would increase traffic into Cape Charles.  Right now, 99% of all traffic passes right on by Cape Charles.  However, if more folks stop on Rt. 13, and if the proprietors of Rt. 13 businesses are encouraged to let travelers know that Cape Charles, with its harbors, shops and eateries etc., is just down the road, I think more people will come check us out.  As for rates, I&#039;m surprised that commercial customers pay less than residential, and I would charge more for those for whose benefit any pipeline is built, although not so much to discourage them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always favored commercial development out by the light on Rt. 13.  I wouldn&#8217;t increase commercial zoning, but I would utilize what is available to extent that it is built out.  The main reason is that I think it would increase traffic into Cape Charles.  Right now, 99% of all traffic passes right on by Cape Charles.  However, if more folks stop on Rt. 13, and if the proprietors of Rt. 13 businesses are encouraged to let travelers know that Cape Charles, with its harbors, shops and eateries etc., is just down the road, I think more people will come check us out.  As for rates, I&#8217;m surprised that commercial customers pay less than residential, and I would charge more for those for whose benefit any pipeline is built, although not so much to discourage them.</p>
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