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		<title>By: Ken Dufty</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken Dufty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2015 12:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is Sunday morning and I have just finished my obligatory 3-hour morning stint devoted to diverting the Northampton County Board of Supervisors&#039; near-maniacal attempt to prostitute what we all know and love about the lower Eastern Shore to please a handful of profiteers. Came across this Wayne Creed article that I missed before and thought it is a magnificent piece of journalism about an equally magnificent and dedicated birditarian (ha!), Dr. Davis.

As the Board of Supervisors unilaterally paves the way for industrial chicken farming interests (Perdue and Tysons&#039; collective beaks are salivating) by eliminating lot coverage limits which discourage huge metal chicken houses now -- and also including a term, &quot;waste related,&quot; in the proposed zoning ordinance, this article should inspire all to take a more active role in the Board&#039;s ongoing assault on Northampton County residents&#039; quality of life.
  
Our local Resource Conservation and Development District is currently working on a project called &quot;Chicken Litter Incineration&quot; which is aimed at giving the industrial chicken farms a purported solution for the millions of pounds of chicken manure generated annually. One major problem with this solution, besides the obvious, is that these mega-growers feed their birds arsenic to help them grow faster and keep down on rodents. The arsenic is designed to pass through the chicken&#039;s digestive system and winds up in the &quot;litter&quot;. The literature out there says that even state-of-the-art emission control devices are not that effective in removing this arsenic from the exhaust streams of these &quot;chicken litter incinerators,&quot; so the carcinogenic arsenic can be spewed into the atmosphere for public inhalation.

Northampton County possesses one of the most fragile ecosystems on the Eastern Seaboard, and there is no question that our sole-source aquifer is showing signs of stress. Thank you Dr. Davis and Wayne Creed for shining the light on the plight of these wonderful birds. As my wife and I teeter on the edge of becoming complete vegetarians, this outstanding piece of journalism and Dr. Davis&#039;s commitment to the humane treatment of these superb creatures may have sealed the deal. Hats off and a hearty bow to the &lt;em&gt;Cape Charles Wave&lt;/em&gt; for bringing these issues to the forefront.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is Sunday morning and I have just finished my obligatory 3-hour morning stint devoted to diverting the Northampton County Board of Supervisors&#8217; near-maniacal attempt to prostitute what we all know and love about the lower Eastern Shore to please a handful of profiteers. Came across this Wayne Creed article that I missed before and thought it is a magnificent piece of journalism about an equally magnificent and dedicated birditarian (ha!), Dr. Davis.</p>
<p>As the Board of Supervisors unilaterally paves the way for industrial chicken farming interests (Perdue and Tysons&#8217; collective beaks are salivating) by eliminating lot coverage limits which discourage huge metal chicken houses now &#8212; and also including a term, &#8220;waste related,&#8221; in the proposed zoning ordinance, this article should inspire all to take a more active role in the Board&#8217;s ongoing assault on Northampton County residents&#8217; quality of life.</p>
<p>Our local Resource Conservation and Development District is currently working on a project called &#8220;Chicken Litter Incineration&#8221; which is aimed at giving the industrial chicken farms a purported solution for the millions of pounds of chicken manure generated annually. One major problem with this solution, besides the obvious, is that these mega-growers feed their birds arsenic to help them grow faster and keep down on rodents. The arsenic is designed to pass through the chicken&#8217;s digestive system and winds up in the &#8220;litter&#8221;. The literature out there says that even state-of-the-art emission control devices are not that effective in removing this arsenic from the exhaust streams of these &#8220;chicken litter incinerators,&#8221; so the carcinogenic arsenic can be spewed into the atmosphere for public inhalation.</p>
<p>Northampton County possesses one of the most fragile ecosystems on the Eastern Seaboard, and there is no question that our sole-source aquifer is showing signs of stress. Thank you Dr. Davis and Wayne Creed for shining the light on the plight of these wonderful birds. As my wife and I teeter on the edge of becoming complete vegetarians, this outstanding piece of journalism and Dr. Davis&#8217;s commitment to the humane treatment of these superb creatures may have sealed the deal. Hats off and a hearty bow to the <em>Cape Charles Wave</em> for bringing these issues to the forefront.</p>
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		<title>By: David Kabler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Kabler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2015 16:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Wayne, for bringing our good neighbor, UPC and Dr. Karen Davis, to the attention of the Wave&#039;s readers. Karen is one of my heroes as well, for she walks her talk like hardly anyone else I have met. Your article deserves all of the wonderful praise you have received, and I especially applaud your description of your moment of epiphany. Thanks to the hard work and dedication of Dr. Davis and the supporters of UPC, the plight of the most abused animal on the earth is brought to the attention of the many who have the power to change the industry by simply boycotting the purchase of chicken.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Wayne, for bringing our good neighbor, UPC and Dr. Karen Davis, to the attention of the Wave&#8217;s readers. Karen is one of my heroes as well, for she walks her talk like hardly anyone else I have met. Your article deserves all of the wonderful praise you have received, and I especially applaud your description of your moment of epiphany. Thanks to the hard work and dedication of Dr. Davis and the supporters of UPC, the plight of the most abused animal on the earth is brought to the attention of the many who have the power to change the industry by simply boycotting the purchase of chicken.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Bauer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Bauer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2015 23:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Kenny, I refer you to the last two sentences of my prior comment.  Defenders of killing and consuming animals are often left to resort to rhetoric to cover up bad logic.  Eat your meat.  Ease your conscience.  Suspend reality.  Just keep telling yourself you are doing it to protect the environment and those poor avocado farmers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Kenny, I refer you to the last two sentences of my prior comment.  Defenders of killing and consuming animals are often left to resort to rhetoric to cover up bad logic.  Eat your meat.  Ease your conscience.  Suspend reality.  Just keep telling yourself you are doing it to protect the environment and those poor avocado farmers.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Kenny</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Kenny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2015 20:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Susan, what crops are growing on the Delmarva peninsula this time of year? I don&#039;t see many avocados growing, nor do I see any fine cucumbers. Shunning meat forces agriculture west and south in this country which will destroy their environment (think California and water). Ever think of the cost of getting that avocado here or the poor migrant picker who is paid dirt because you don&#039;t want to pay $6 a pound for avocados? So instead of the chickens being the victims, with a wholesale switch to a plant based diet the victim becomes the migrant picker.

There is a reason we eat meat: we are used to eating locally -- and that means in most places it&#039;s animal and vegetable. We created the factory farms because we didn&#039;t want to pay $8 a pound for chicken. Farming can be done small scale and humanely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan, what crops are growing on the Delmarva peninsula this time of year? I don&#8217;t see many avocados growing, nor do I see any fine cucumbers. Shunning meat forces agriculture west and south in this country which will destroy their environment (think California and water). Ever think of the cost of getting that avocado here or the poor migrant picker who is paid dirt because you don&#8217;t want to pay $6 a pound for avocados? So instead of the chickens being the victims, with a wholesale switch to a plant based diet the victim becomes the migrant picker.</p>
<p>There is a reason we eat meat: we are used to eating locally &#8212; and that means in most places it&#8217;s animal and vegetable. We created the factory farms because we didn&#8217;t want to pay $8 a pound for chicken. Farming can be done small scale and humanely.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Bauer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Bauer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Zahn, here&#039;s some math for you.  In a recent University of Minnesota study it was determined that the elimination of meat from our diets could play a significant role in ending world hunger.  It was found that 36% of calories that come from crops are allocated to meat production but only 12% of those calories actually wind up in the food we now consume.  Moreover, researchers found that if we directly ate those crops, there would be 70% more food available for the world&#039;s population -- enough to feed an additional 4 billion people.  Don&#039;t even get me started on the meat industry&#039;s destruction of the environment, indescribable cruelty toward animals, and exploitation of low wage workers. There seems to be no limit to the extent to which people will cling to the culture of consuming animals by spewing nonsensical and easily contradicted excuses.  Enjoy the view through those rose colored glasses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Zahn, here&#8217;s some math for you.  In a recent University of Minnesota study it was determined that the elimination of meat from our diets could play a significant role in ending world hunger.  It was found that 36% of calories that come from crops are allocated to meat production but only 12% of those calories actually wind up in the food we now consume.  Moreover, researchers found that if we directly ate those crops, there would be 70% more food available for the world&#8217;s population &#8212; enough to feed an additional 4 billion people.  Don&#8217;t even get me started on the meat industry&#8217;s destruction of the environment, indescribable cruelty toward animals, and exploitation of low wage workers. There seems to be no limit to the extent to which people will cling to the culture of consuming animals by spewing nonsensical and easily contradicted excuses.  Enjoy the view through those rose colored glasses.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet Sturgis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Janet Sturgis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let’s clear a few things up for those who may not be familiar with religious ritual, other than their own. Kapparot  is  a custom, not a commandment. It is considered by many Jews to be pagan in origin and therefore not acceptable. The large majority of Jews, except for some sects of the ultra orthodox, do not practice this ritual, and there are/have been many in the Jewish community calling for its end. The reason the chicken&#039;s throat is cut is not to prevent it from screaming, but to facilitate as quick and painless a death as possible, and to allow the blood to be drained in an effective manner. The chickens are donated to the poor; the consumption of blood is forbidden in Jewish law.
 
During the yearly Islamic celebration of Eid al-Ahda, millions of cattle, goats, and camels are ritually slaughtered and a portion of the meat donated to the poor, a portion eaten by the family, and a portion gifted. This sacrifice is under scrutiny by many of today’s Muslims. In India, the annual celebration of this festival and the associated animal slaughter incites terrible bouts of violence between observant Muslims and outraged Hindu protesters. Cows are sacred to Hindus, and most Hindus are vegetarians. There seems to be a lot of killing in a country where spirituality is measured by the way animals are treated, and  the virtues of nonviolence are exalted.

Animal sacrifice is part of Santeria and can even occur in the observance of Goddess worship in a few Hindu sects. As Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy stated in the decision regarding  Church of Lukumi Babalu Aye v. City of Hialeah, “religious beliefs need not be acceptable, logical, consistent, or comprehensible to others in order to merit First Amendment protection.”
It is no secret that “Kosher&quot; slaughterhouses and meat packing plants have been for years the targets of PETA, so much so they have been accused of fanning the flames of anti-Semitism. There was/is much room for improvement in any and all agribusiness, including our local chicken industry where the growing, slaughter, and processing of animals intended for human consumption is a major contributor to the economy. I am happy to report that these issues are being properly addressed and corrected in “Kosher” facilities. Research has shown that if in the proscribed position and if ALL  proper ritual slaughter procedure is followed, including the requirement the animal not be slaughtered in the presence of another, the animal feels no pain. Many of the large agribusiness-style slaughter houses have given way to smaller, more easily monitored and controlled facilities.

Andy Zahn, I respect and understand your right to eat meat, just as I respect the right of those who wish to lead a vegetarian or vegan lifestyle. I was raised in a meat eating household. I am the product of blended  cultures, i.e. a mixed marriage. My father was reared in an observant household and my mother on a large southern farm where they grew and raised, harvested and slaughtered, and preserved all of their own food.  My grandmother would throw the just-beheaded chicken, the soon to be “guest of honor” at Sunday dinner, under a bushel basket to keep it from running around without its head; apparently chickens are famous for doing this, as are some politicians and many zealots, no matter their persuasion. Some say meat is murder, to others it is killing. There is a difference. Maybe vegetarianism and total nonviolence are the way to personal enlightenment. It is not my privilege to impose my spiritual beliefs on another.

According to the  Bible, if one is  inclined  to accept its guidance, G-d gives mankind permission to eat meat after the Great Flood, with the admonishment that is must be done without cruelty. This is part of what is referred to as the Noahide Laws, precursor to the more well known Ten Commandments. Apparently humans, in an earlier time, would eat parts of a still living animal, piece by piece until the animal died. The dietary laws handed down were actually an attempt to minimize cruelty, adding to the assurance of ritual purity. They also reiterate a respect for life and gratitude for our being allowed to live, as the Lord has the power of life and death.

I was and still am a very finicky eater. I was a vegetarian for many years, and prefer to cook for myself. It is no coincidence that my vegetarianism coincided with my dealing with meat packing and butchering facilities. I do, however, understand the need for adequate high quality protein in the human diet. Scientists  tell us that increased consumption of meat allowed for exponential development of the human brain as our species evolved. Vegetarianism done properly does, or at least did up until a few years ago, require a lot of do it yourself preparation. My Jain friends, even though strict vegetarians, still include diary, especially yogurt, as an important part of their diet. They do not consider diary cows as slaves to humans. One cares for and feeds a cow; she in return provides milk.

We as a society must do what we can to insure animals are not subjected to abuse; proper treatment and respect for animals is a must. The FBI now tracks animal cruelty cases, as they have finally recognized that animal abuse and other sociopathic behaviors go hand in hand.

Gever means both “man” and “rooster” in Hebrew. This, however, does not give license to refer to anything, other than the attempted genocide and successful slaughter of 6 million Jews, or the enslavement and transport of 15 million Africans by way of the Middle Passage, as Holocaust.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let’s clear a few things up for those who may not be familiar with religious ritual, other than their own. Kapparot  is  a custom, not a commandment. It is considered by many Jews to be pagan in origin and therefore not acceptable. The large majority of Jews, except for some sects of the ultra orthodox, do not practice this ritual, and there are/have been many in the Jewish community calling for its end. The reason the chicken&#8217;s throat is cut is not to prevent it from screaming, but to facilitate as quick and painless a death as possible, and to allow the blood to be drained in an effective manner. The chickens are donated to the poor; the consumption of blood is forbidden in Jewish law.</p>
<p>During the yearly Islamic celebration of Eid al-Ahda, millions of cattle, goats, and camels are ritually slaughtered and a portion of the meat donated to the poor, a portion eaten by the family, and a portion gifted. This sacrifice is under scrutiny by many of today’s Muslims. In India, the annual celebration of this festival and the associated animal slaughter incites terrible bouts of violence between observant Muslims and outraged Hindu protesters. Cows are sacred to Hindus, and most Hindus are vegetarians. There seems to be a lot of killing in a country where spirituality is measured by the way animals are treated, and  the virtues of nonviolence are exalted.</p>
<p>Animal sacrifice is part of Santeria and can even occur in the observance of Goddess worship in a few Hindu sects. As Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy stated in the decision regarding  Church of Lukumi Babalu Aye v. City of Hialeah, “religious beliefs need not be acceptable, logical, consistent, or comprehensible to others in order to merit First Amendment protection.”<br />
It is no secret that “Kosher&#8221; slaughterhouses and meat packing plants have been for years the targets of PETA, so much so they have been accused of fanning the flames of anti-Semitism. There was/is much room for improvement in any and all agribusiness, including our local chicken industry where the growing, slaughter, and processing of animals intended for human consumption is a major contributor to the economy. I am happy to report that these issues are being properly addressed and corrected in “Kosher” facilities. Research has shown that if in the proscribed position and if ALL  proper ritual slaughter procedure is followed, including the requirement the animal not be slaughtered in the presence of another, the animal feels no pain. Many of the large agribusiness-style slaughter houses have given way to smaller, more easily monitored and controlled facilities.</p>
<p>Andy Zahn, I respect and understand your right to eat meat, just as I respect the right of those who wish to lead a vegetarian or vegan lifestyle. I was raised in a meat eating household. I am the product of blended  cultures, i.e. a mixed marriage. My father was reared in an observant household and my mother on a large southern farm where they grew and raised, harvested and slaughtered, and preserved all of their own food.  My grandmother would throw the just-beheaded chicken, the soon to be “guest of honor” at Sunday dinner, under a bushel basket to keep it from running around without its head; apparently chickens are famous for doing this, as are some politicians and many zealots, no matter their persuasion. Some say meat is murder, to others it is killing. There is a difference. Maybe vegetarianism and total nonviolence are the way to personal enlightenment. It is not my privilege to impose my spiritual beliefs on another.</p>
<p>According to the  Bible, if one is  inclined  to accept its guidance, G-d gives mankind permission to eat meat after the Great Flood, with the admonishment that is must be done without cruelty. This is part of what is referred to as the Noahide Laws, precursor to the more well known Ten Commandments. Apparently humans, in an earlier time, would eat parts of a still living animal, piece by piece until the animal died. The dietary laws handed down were actually an attempt to minimize cruelty, adding to the assurance of ritual purity. They also reiterate a respect for life and gratitude for our being allowed to live, as the Lord has the power of life and death.</p>
<p>I was and still am a very finicky eater. I was a vegetarian for many years, and prefer to cook for myself. It is no coincidence that my vegetarianism coincided with my dealing with meat packing and butchering facilities. I do, however, understand the need for adequate high quality protein in the human diet. Scientists  tell us that increased consumption of meat allowed for exponential development of the human brain as our species evolved. Vegetarianism done properly does, or at least did up until a few years ago, require a lot of do it yourself preparation. My Jain friends, even though strict vegetarians, still include diary, especially yogurt, as an important part of their diet. They do not consider diary cows as slaves to humans. One cares for and feeds a cow; she in return provides milk.</p>
<p>We as a society must do what we can to insure animals are not subjected to abuse; proper treatment and respect for animals is a must. The FBI now tracks animal cruelty cases, as they have finally recognized that animal abuse and other sociopathic behaviors go hand in hand.</p>
<p>Gever means both “man” and “rooster” in Hebrew. This, however, does not give license to refer to anything, other than the attempted genocide and successful slaughter of 6 million Jews, or the enslavement and transport of 15 million Africans by way of the Middle Passage, as Holocaust.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Davis, PhD</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2015/02/wayne-creed-pays-a-visit-to-united-poultry-concerns/#comment-170041</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karen Davis, PhD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2015 21:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am glad that attorney Valerie Stanley pointed out in her comment that the U.S. Humane Methods of Slaughter Act does not “protect” the animals who are covered by it, that chickens and all other birds are excluded from this pro forma law, and that chickens and other birds are NOT stunned - rendered pain-free or unconscious - before their throats are partially cut during the slaughter process; rather these poor birds are fully conscious through the entire electrified “stun” bath through which their faces are dragged as they hang upside down. The electricity is designed, not to stun them, but to paralyze the muscles of their feather follicles so that their feathers will come out more easily after they are dead, and to immobilize them so they won’t writhe and thrash on the slaughter line as they would otherwise do. They’ve been described by a slaughterhouse worker as trying to hide their faces under the wing of the bird next to them in their state of fear. It is impossible to exaggerate the torture that chickens and other sentient creatures are being put through for nothing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad that attorney Valerie Stanley pointed out in her comment that the U.S. Humane Methods of Slaughter Act does not “protect” the animals who are covered by it, that chickens and all other birds are excluded from this pro forma law, and that chickens and other birds are NOT stunned &#8211; rendered pain-free or unconscious &#8211; before their throats are partially cut during the slaughter process; rather these poor birds are fully conscious through the entire electrified “stun” bath through which their faces are dragged as they hang upside down. The electricity is designed, not to stun them, but to paralyze the muscles of their feather follicles so that their feathers will come out more easily after they are dead, and to immobilize them so they won’t writhe and thrash on the slaughter line as they would otherwise do. They’ve been described by a slaughterhouse worker as trying to hide their faces under the wing of the bird next to them in their state of fear. It is impossible to exaggerate the torture that chickens and other sentient creatures are being put through for nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Zahn</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2015/02/wayne-creed-pays-a-visit-to-united-poultry-concerns/#comment-170032</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy Zahn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2015 15:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I commend all the people who have given up eating meat in order to spare pain &amp; suffering in the animal world. No sane person wants to see any human or animal suffer but all life must end and in some cases it&#039;s peaceful and in others there is great and prolonged pain and suffering and this includes a great many humans.

If everyone would give up meat there would be side effects. There always is. Millions of people in one way or another earn a living through the meat industry. The economy is not very healthy and if these people lost their jobs it would be that much worse. So that&#039;s selfish. To have a job. Then if we are permitted to eat eggs and drink milk, what to do with old hens and cows no longer productive? No small number of animals. As always, the males of every species, including human, are worthless so what becomes of them, the roosters, the bulls and the rams? If we want things made of wool what to do with the lambs and mutton?

Sometimes I look on my field and I see ten and more deer eating away. Young tender green plants just emerging and now nipped to the ground, gone. At times there are 40 and more wild turkeys on the field eating their bellies full. The combine comes to acres of vacant space with the crop cleaned off.

Besides the animals killed by cars which causes injuries and death to motorists as well, the wild animals if left unchecked will be competing for the very food eaten by Vegans, so do the math. In India they have a religion which is of the same belief as the Vegans, that they are not allowed to kill anything and so they starve as they watch the rats eat their grain.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I commend all the people who have given up eating meat in order to spare pain &amp; suffering in the animal world. No sane person wants to see any human or animal suffer but all life must end and in some cases it&#8217;s peaceful and in others there is great and prolonged pain and suffering and this includes a great many humans.</p>
<p>If everyone would give up meat there would be side effects. There always is. Millions of people in one way or another earn a living through the meat industry. The economy is not very healthy and if these people lost their jobs it would be that much worse. So that&#8217;s selfish. To have a job. Then if we are permitted to eat eggs and drink milk, what to do with old hens and cows no longer productive? No small number of animals. As always, the males of every species, including human, are worthless so what becomes of them, the roosters, the bulls and the rams? If we want things made of wool what to do with the lambs and mutton?</p>
<p>Sometimes I look on my field and I see ten and more deer eating away. Young tender green plants just emerging and now nipped to the ground, gone. At times there are 40 and more wild turkeys on the field eating their bellies full. The combine comes to acres of vacant space with the crop cleaned off.</p>
<p>Besides the animals killed by cars which causes injuries and death to motorists as well, the wild animals if left unchecked will be competing for the very food eaten by Vegans, so do the math. In India they have a religion which is of the same belief as the Vegans, that they are not allowed to kill anything and so they starve as they watch the rats eat their grain.</p>
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		<title>By: Valerie Stanley</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Valerie Stanley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2015 15:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Beautiful! Such an excellent article. I have shared it with my students in the Fall 2014 Animal Law class I teach, a number of whom wrote their papers on farmed animal issues! 
I commend Mr.Creed for his honesty in describing his journey from supporter of raising animals for food to one who questions and rethinks the entire process and then begins to take steps to act on his new thoughts.  
Animals value their lives as much as we value ours.
The Humane Slaughter Act does not provide animals with a painless, loss of consciousness prior to death experience. And chickens and other birds are not even covered by that law.  They are stunned prior to slaughter, yes, however, they are fully conscious while going through the entire process.  They cannot move yet they are fully aware.  This is a horrible cruelty to inflict on such sweet creatures.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful! Such an excellent article. I have shared it with my students in the Fall 2014 Animal Law class I teach, a number of whom wrote their papers on farmed animal issues!<br />
I commend Mr.Creed for his honesty in describing his journey from supporter of raising animals for food to one who questions and rethinks the entire process and then begins to take steps to act on his new thoughts.<br />
Animals value their lives as much as we value ours.<br />
The Humane Slaughter Act does not provide animals with a painless, loss of consciousness prior to death experience. And chickens and other birds are not even covered by that law.  They are stunned prior to slaughter, yes, however, they are fully conscious while going through the entire process.  They cannot move yet they are fully aware.  This is a horrible cruelty to inflict on such sweet creatures.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Bauer</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2015/02/wayne-creed-pays-a-visit-to-united-poultry-concerns/#comment-169972</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Bauer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2015 18:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of all the justifications given for consuming animals, perhaps the one that rings the most hollow to me is that meat tastes good.  Imagine, Mr. Zahn, a species more advanced than ours, that upon a visit to our small part of the universe, discovers that humans are quite tasty, and decides to enslave our species, force us to reproduce, and feature us, and our children. as the main course on their dinner tables.  To paraphrase Hanniibal Lecter, we humans might be delicious with a nice chianti and some fava beans.  We wouldn&#039;t be cool with that, now would we?  In fact, we might try to persuade them of the virtues of &quot;soy mush.&quot;  More likely, we would fight to the death to defend ourselves.  This is not a matter of &quot;respect&quot; for personal choice.  It&#039;s a matter of defending the defenseless, your fond memories of friends gathered around picking the carcass of a poor dead bird, aside.  I, too, spent many years eating meat, but I look back with shame and regret, not nostalgia.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of all the justifications given for consuming animals, perhaps the one that rings the most hollow to me is that meat tastes good.  Imagine, Mr. Zahn, a species more advanced than ours, that upon a visit to our small part of the universe, discovers that humans are quite tasty, and decides to enslave our species, force us to reproduce, and feature us, and our children. as the main course on their dinner tables.  To paraphrase Hanniibal Lecter, we humans might be delicious with a nice chianti and some fava beans.  We wouldn&#8217;t be cool with that, now would we?  In fact, we might try to persuade them of the virtues of &#8220;soy mush.&#8221;  More likely, we would fight to the death to defend ourselves.  This is not a matter of &#8220;respect&#8221; for personal choice.  It&#8217;s a matter of defending the defenseless, your fond memories of friends gathered around picking the carcass of a poor dead bird, aside.  I, too, spent many years eating meat, but I look back with shame and regret, not nostalgia.</p>
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