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		<title>By: Janet Sturgis</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2015/03/commentary-chicken-litter-incinerator-causes-toxic-waste/#comment-171709</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Janet Sturgis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2015 02:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s make it clear. I am NOT in favor of poultry agribusiness in Northampton County. My comments were directed at remediation of sludge from sewage treatment, pump out, and perhaps food wastes (household, restaurant). I am also in favor of water reclamation and other technological means of improving and protecting the environment. These technologies are in use all over the world and are considered green technologies. 
It may interest some to know that a mass emailing, slandering and insulting me, was sent to over 100 people tonight, due to my comments concerning the issues. Shame, shame, shame that you (and you know who you are) need to resort to such Taliban like tactics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s make it clear. I am NOT in favor of poultry agribusiness in Northampton County. My comments were directed at remediation of sludge from sewage treatment, pump out, and perhaps food wastes (household, restaurant). I am also in favor of water reclamation and other technological means of improving and protecting the environment. These technologies are in use all over the world and are considered green technologies.<br />
It may interest some to know that a mass emailing, slandering and insulting me, was sent to over 100 people tonight, due to my comments concerning the issues. Shame, shame, shame that you (and you know who you are) need to resort to such Taliban like tactics.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Welch</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Welch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2015 23:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With all due respect Janet have you read this report on &quot;poultry waste gasification impacts on the environment and public health&quot; link below? 

It&#039;s a tricky issue. To date I&#039;ve not seen any real level of competence exhibited on very simple problems, like building a building that really needs to be built, then doing proper maintenance on that building once constructed so it doesn&#039;t become unsafe and fall apart. So to think that Northampton County is capable of pioneering environmentally sound and fiscally balanced chicken manure disintegration is really pushing way beyond the limits of the current BoS or the county management team. There certainly is a way to do what you suggest I believe, but it doesn&#039;t involve government interaction in my opinion. 

www.bredl.org/pdf3/waste_gasification_poultry.pdf

Jim]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect Janet have you read this report on &#8220;poultry waste gasification impacts on the environment and public health&#8221; link below? </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a tricky issue. To date I&#8217;ve not seen any real level of competence exhibited on very simple problems, like building a building that really needs to be built, then doing proper maintenance on that building once constructed so it doesn&#8217;t become unsafe and fall apart. So to think that Northampton County is capable of pioneering environmentally sound and fiscally balanced chicken manure disintegration is really pushing way beyond the limits of the current BoS or the county management team. There certainly is a way to do what you suggest I believe, but it doesn&#8217;t involve government interaction in my opinion. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.bredl.org/pdf3/waste_gasification_poultry.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.bredl.org/pdf3/waste_gasification_poultry.pdf</a></p>
<p>Jim</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bobby Roberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2015 20:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There’s probably a solution, somewhere in the letters above, to safely getting rid of chicken manure.  A solution that doesn&#039;t involve on-the-cheap incinerators in poor people’s backyards.  A solution funded by the ones who profit from the chicken products.  A solution that’s located at the areas already involved with chicken profits.  And none of those solutions belong on the farm fields next to towns and houses in Northampton County.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There’s probably a solution, somewhere in the letters above, to safely getting rid of chicken manure.  A solution that doesn&#8217;t involve on-the-cheap incinerators in poor people’s backyards.  A solution funded by the ones who profit from the chicken products.  A solution that’s located at the areas already involved with chicken profits.  And none of those solutions belong on the farm fields next to towns and houses in Northampton County.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael LaBelle</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael LaBelle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2015 17:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My company, Mighty Grow Organics, has a solution to the Eastern Shore&#039;s chicken waste problem. We are already in production in SW Alabama, turning some of the areas chicken litter into an easy to use, nutrient dense, OMRI listed organic fertilizer. It can be transported and spread just like any other fertilizer, yet is organic, and can be mixed with synthetic fertilizer as needed for large scale row crop farming. 

We are NOT a waste disposal company. We go into the marketplace and buy the raw materials to make our product. While our operation is relatively small compared to the amount of waste available, it is scalable and is an environmentally sound means of handling the raw litter.

If anyone is interested in discussing this concept with me, please contact the CEO of Mighty Grow Organics through my company&#039;s website. Just search for Mighty Grow in Fruitdale, Alabama. That way I am not promoting my company website in this comment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My company, Mighty Grow Organics, has a solution to the Eastern Shore&#8217;s chicken waste problem. We are already in production in SW Alabama, turning some of the areas chicken litter into an easy to use, nutrient dense, OMRI listed organic fertilizer. It can be transported and spread just like any other fertilizer, yet is organic, and can be mixed with synthetic fertilizer as needed for large scale row crop farming. </p>
<p>We are NOT a waste disposal company. We go into the marketplace and buy the raw materials to make our product. While our operation is relatively small compared to the amount of waste available, it is scalable and is an environmentally sound means of handling the raw litter.</p>
<p>If anyone is interested in discussing this concept with me, please contact the CEO of Mighty Grow Organics through my company&#8217;s website. Just search for Mighty Grow in Fruitdale, Alabama. That way I am not promoting my company website in this comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet Sturgis</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2015/03/commentary-chicken-litter-incinerator-causes-toxic-waste/#comment-171597</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Janet Sturgis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2015 15:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.waste-management-world.com/articles/print/volume-14/issue-4/trash-talking/the-gasification-debate.html


I am NOT in favor of waste incineration. The link above explains what is being done in the UK. Northampton County would be the perfect place for innovative technologies like gasification etc., as we would be starting from scratch. Our economic development efforts should expand into these new territories. Let&#039;s get out our phones and pencils and look for money for these and similar projects. Water reclamation is another technology well suited to our needs.]]></description>
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<p>I am NOT in favor of waste incineration. The link above explains what is being done in the UK. Northampton County would be the perfect place for innovative technologies like gasification etc., as we would be starting from scratch. Our economic development efforts should expand into these new territories. Let&#8217;s get out our phones and pencils and look for money for these and similar projects. Water reclamation is another technology well suited to our needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Creed</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wayne Creed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2015 13:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In 2013, the FDA banned roxarsone, carbarsone and arsanilic acid from use in animal feeds, due to higher than accepted levels of inorganic arsenic being present in the livers of &quot;broiler&quot; chickens. However, other arsenic-based drugs that are approved for use in food-producing animals (poultry and swine) include nitarsone, arsanilic acid, and carbarsone.  These drugs, meant to aid against disease, all have forms of organic arsenic -- the form of arsenic that is less toxic and not carcinogenic -- as their active ingredient.

Whether or not levels of arsenic may still be present in chicken litter, and how they matter, can certainly be debated. From a sustainable engineering standpoint, burning poultry litter may actually produce as much or more toxic air emissions than coal plants. Analysis conducted by the North Carolina Department of Environment and Natural Resources found that a 57 MW poultry litter combustion plant was permitted to emit levels of carbon monoxide, particulate matter, nitrogen oxides, and carbon dioxide per unit of power generation higher than those for new coal plants. Another byproduct of burning chicken litter is dioxin (a known human carcinogen).

The liter incineration issue also speaks volumes to the political clout leveraged by Agribusiness. The technology to produce clean energy from bio-waste certainly exists, if you are willing to make the capital outlay. Waste-to-energy company Blue Sphere recently began a waste-to-energy production in Charlotte, North Carolina, and the facility will produce 5.2 megawatts of clean energy from organic food waste (stuff that usually ends up in landfills). Estimates by the National Resources Defense Council state that close to 40 percent of food is wasted in the US every year ($165 billion). Blue Sphere sells this electricity to leading electric companies through long-term power purchase agreements.

See North Carolina Department of Environment and Natural Resources, Air Quality Division, “Comparison of emissions from controlled coal and biomass combustion,” Air Quality Committee Meeting, North Carolina Environmental Management Commission,Raleigh, NC, March 10, 2010, and U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. “Integrated Science
Assessment for Particulate Matter (Final Report).”]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2013, the FDA banned roxarsone, carbarsone and arsanilic acid from use in animal feeds, due to higher than accepted levels of inorganic arsenic being present in the livers of &#8220;broiler&#8221; chickens. However, other arsenic-based drugs that are approved for use in food-producing animals (poultry and swine) include nitarsone, arsanilic acid, and carbarsone.  These drugs, meant to aid against disease, all have forms of organic arsenic &#8212; the form of arsenic that is less toxic and not carcinogenic &#8212; as their active ingredient.</p>
<p>Whether or not levels of arsenic may still be present in chicken litter, and how they matter, can certainly be debated. From a sustainable engineering standpoint, burning poultry litter may actually produce as much or more toxic air emissions than coal plants. Analysis conducted by the North Carolina Department of Environment and Natural Resources found that a 57 MW poultry litter combustion plant was permitted to emit levels of carbon monoxide, particulate matter, nitrogen oxides, and carbon dioxide per unit of power generation higher than those for new coal plants. Another byproduct of burning chicken litter is dioxin (a known human carcinogen).</p>
<p>The liter incineration issue also speaks volumes to the political clout leveraged by Agribusiness. The technology to produce clean energy from bio-waste certainly exists, if you are willing to make the capital outlay. Waste-to-energy company Blue Sphere recently began a waste-to-energy production in Charlotte, North Carolina, and the facility will produce 5.2 megawatts of clean energy from organic food waste (stuff that usually ends up in landfills). Estimates by the National Resources Defense Council state that close to 40 percent of food is wasted in the US every year ($165 billion). Blue Sphere sells this electricity to leading electric companies through long-term power purchase agreements.</p>
<p>See North Carolina Department of Environment and Natural Resources, Air Quality Division, “Comparison of emissions from controlled coal and biomass combustion,” Air Quality Committee Meeting, North Carolina Environmental Management Commission,Raleigh, NC, March 10, 2010, and U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. “Integrated Science<br />
Assessment for Particulate Matter (Final Report).”</p>
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		<title>By: Janet Sturgis</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2015/03/commentary-chicken-litter-incinerator-causes-toxic-waste/#comment-171574</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Janet Sturgis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2015 14:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, Mike, not at all. The point is everything has a downside. There are no perfect solutions. For instance, GMO crops were originally seen as an answer to the world hunger problem. Vegans/Vegetarians risk arsenic poisoning if consuming more than one or two servings of rice or rice products per week. As I mentioned, not everyone can grow their foods and “eat locally.”
I wish folks posting here were a little more concerned about access to adequate wholesome foods by the poor here on ESVA. Organic and locally sourced foods are not inexpensive options.

The roadside produce vendors are gone, thanks to the Highway Dept. and zoning. These served as readily available fresh food for many and as a source of income for the vendors. Even food production and distribution has become gentrified. Northampton County needs to start thinking out of the box to solve our economic and social issues. People here need good paying jobs and careers. Raising taxes on the already overtaxed and shoving zoning changes down our throats to pander to a few is not the answer. For instance, I would like to see the soon to be vacated hospital building turned into an environmental education facility.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Mike, not at all. The point is everything has a downside. There are no perfect solutions. For instance, GMO crops were originally seen as an answer to the world hunger problem. Vegans/Vegetarians risk arsenic poisoning if consuming more than one or two servings of rice or rice products per week. As I mentioned, not everyone can grow their foods and “eat locally.”<br />
I wish folks posting here were a little more concerned about access to adequate wholesome foods by the poor here on ESVA. Organic and locally sourced foods are not inexpensive options.</p>
<p>The roadside produce vendors are gone, thanks to the Highway Dept. and zoning. These served as readily available fresh food for many and as a source of income for the vendors. Even food production and distribution has become gentrified. Northampton County needs to start thinking out of the box to solve our economic and social issues. People here need good paying jobs and careers. Raising taxes on the already overtaxed and shoving zoning changes down our throats to pander to a few is not the answer. For instance, I would like to see the soon to be vacated hospital building turned into an environmental education facility.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Kuzma</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2015/03/commentary-chicken-litter-incinerator-causes-toxic-waste/#comment-171573</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Kuzma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2015 13:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ms. Sturgis, are you suggesting we let famine and deadly disease flourish? Sure sounds like it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms. Sturgis, are you suggesting we let famine and deadly disease flourish? Sure sounds like it.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet Sturgis</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2015/03/commentary-chicken-litter-incinerator-causes-toxic-waste/#comment-171567</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Janet Sturgis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2015 00:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please do a little further reading. I do believe arsenic (contained in an antibiotic as the organic form) was removed from commercial chicken feeds several years ago. It seems that arsenic was being deposited in the chickens&#039; livers in the more toxic inorganic form. Also, gasification is a much different process than inceneration. The two process terms should not be used interchangably. The gasification process is a viable option for the remediation of sewage treatment plant, septic tank pump-out, etc., waste and is considered &quot;green&quot; energy. The leftover slag can be used for building materials, etc.

Unfortunately, the greatest global disaster is overpopulation. It seems our war on famine and deadly disease has resulted in populations that have exponentially outgrown world resources, no matter what they may choose to eat. Even vegetarian/vegan diets have their pitfalls. Rice worldwide is heavily contaminated with arsenic, and foodstuffs must still be transported to cities and other population centers that do not have the climate, open space, or whatever for food production.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please do a little further reading. I do believe arsenic (contained in an antibiotic as the organic form) was removed from commercial chicken feeds several years ago. It seems that arsenic was being deposited in the chickens&#8217; livers in the more toxic inorganic form. Also, gasification is a much different process than inceneration. The two process terms should not be used interchangably. The gasification process is a viable option for the remediation of sewage treatment plant, septic tank pump-out, etc., waste and is considered &#8220;green&#8221; energy. The leftover slag can be used for building materials, etc.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the greatest global disaster is overpopulation. It seems our war on famine and deadly disease has resulted in populations that have exponentially outgrown world resources, no matter what they may choose to eat. Even vegetarian/vegan diets have their pitfalls. Rice worldwide is heavily contaminated with arsenic, and foodstuffs must still be transported to cities and other population centers that do not have the climate, open space, or whatever for food production.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Metcalf</title>
		<link>https://capecharleswave.com/2015/03/commentary-chicken-litter-incinerator-causes-toxic-waste/#comment-171560</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Metcalf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2015 16:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I disagree that &quot;the plight of these wonderful birds” is the heart of the matter. For a child, limited to a view of its own backyard, perhaps it is. Or perhaps there are other hearts of the matter with such a limited perspective, such as wealth, convenience, and immediate gratification of avarice, to name a few. 

The heart of the matter is humanity itself. Concern for humanity brings to personal awareness  the &quot;global disaster&quot; that adversely affects the lives of perhaps 3 billion people - all but the upper .00001%, if that, and interestingly, eventually even that miniscule percentage will find life precarious or somehow &quot;less&quot; if the rest of humanity capitulates to calamity. Already, people are dying as a consequence of climate change and other aspects of ecological changes and imbalances, while others are objecting to major changes of policy and personally unhealthful lifestyle that affect not only chickens, but all creatures, including human. 

Opening one&#039;s heart to the plight of chickens can be life changing, but suggesting it is the &quot;heart of the matter&quot; as if the rest of the article was beside the point, is certainly not persuasive to most people who might consider becoming vegan or vegetarian, or changing some aspect of their lives, perceptions, or consciousness - even the very general notion that at least some animals merit greater consideration. As a vegan, I frequently encounter this bias for intelligence when in the presence of diehard carnivores. 

I recommend a broader outlook that transcends emotional ties to perspectives from the backyard.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree that &#8220;the plight of these wonderful birds” is the heart of the matter. For a child, limited to a view of its own backyard, perhaps it is. Or perhaps there are other hearts of the matter with such a limited perspective, such as wealth, convenience, and immediate gratification of avarice, to name a few. </p>
<p>The heart of the matter is humanity itself. Concern for humanity brings to personal awareness  the &#8220;global disaster&#8221; that adversely affects the lives of perhaps 3 billion people &#8211; all but the upper .00001%, if that, and interestingly, eventually even that miniscule percentage will find life precarious or somehow &#8220;less&#8221; if the rest of humanity capitulates to calamity. Already, people are dying as a consequence of climate change and other aspects of ecological changes and imbalances, while others are objecting to major changes of policy and personally unhealthful lifestyle that affect not only chickens, but all creatures, including human. </p>
<p>Opening one&#8217;s heart to the plight of chickens can be life changing, but suggesting it is the &#8220;heart of the matter&#8221; as if the rest of the article was beside the point, is certainly not persuasive to most people who might consider becoming vegan or vegetarian, or changing some aspect of their lives, perceptions, or consciousness &#8211; even the very general notion that at least some animals merit greater consideration. As a vegan, I frequently encounter this bias for intelligence when in the presence of diehard carnivores. </p>
<p>I recommend a broader outlook that transcends emotional ties to perspectives from the backyard.</p>
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