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		<title>By: Mike Kuzma</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Kuzma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2015 16:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mrs. Bauer, my concern for the poor is unmatched. Sadly, we are discussing the differences in eradicating poverty that exist between left and right.

I am in the midst of preparing a report on the disparate impact the Mt. Laurel decision has had in NJ, and the direct connection between that Judicial Fiat and the necessity of &quot;Abbott District School funding&quot;.
As we draw down the population of employed, lower income individuals in our cities, we leave behind those who now lack the role models of those who get up and go to work, get involved in the local politics of their city, look to keep those areas safe and crime free and generally make up the &#039;holistic&#039; community that is a City, Town or Municipality.

I have a child. I do not just GIVE to her, I expect her to EARN. Why does the opposite apply to those who we are NOT related to?

Does a child respect what is given with no expectations of responsibility? No. They destroy it because they know there will be no reprecussions and can expect it to be replaced.

I am personally appalled at the disheveled state of the &quot;Social Justice&quot;  housing project across Rt. 13. 

NEVER ONCE did I go there and toss trash, rip down the fence surrounding the retention pond or preform NO maintenance on the lawns or surrounding areas.

Nor do I support the increasing of taxes on those who paid full price, pay full taxes and utility costs to subsidize others.

But please do not ever EVER call me cold towards poor people. I was born in south Trenton, NJ a very very poor person. Hard work and effort by myself, and more importantly my Parents got us out of that economic position.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs. Bauer, my concern for the poor is unmatched. Sadly, we are discussing the differences in eradicating poverty that exist between left and right.</p>
<p>I am in the midst of preparing a report on the disparate impact the Mt. Laurel decision has had in NJ, and the direct connection between that Judicial Fiat and the necessity of &#8220;Abbott District School funding&#8221;.<br />
As we draw down the population of employed, lower income individuals in our cities, we leave behind those who now lack the role models of those who get up and go to work, get involved in the local politics of their city, look to keep those areas safe and crime free and generally make up the &#8216;holistic&#8217; community that is a City, Town or Municipality.</p>
<p>I have a child. I do not just GIVE to her, I expect her to EARN. Why does the opposite apply to those who we are NOT related to?</p>
<p>Does a child respect what is given with no expectations of responsibility? No. They destroy it because they know there will be no reprecussions and can expect it to be replaced.</p>
<p>I am personally appalled at the disheveled state of the &#8220;Social Justice&#8221;  housing project across Rt. 13. </p>
<p>NEVER ONCE did I go there and toss trash, rip down the fence surrounding the retention pond or preform NO maintenance on the lawns or surrounding areas.</p>
<p>Nor do I support the increasing of taxes on those who paid full price, pay full taxes and utility costs to subsidize others.</p>
<p>But please do not ever EVER call me cold towards poor people. I was born in south Trenton, NJ a very very poor person. Hard work and effort by myself, and more importantly my Parents got us out of that economic position.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Bauer</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2015 15:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One can only hope that the Old School will turn into a &quot;public housing project.&quot;  Safe, quality and affordable housing for low income residents is in great demand in the area and should be considered an asset in any town.  I continue to be dismayed at the disdain for poor people in Cape Charles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One can only hope that the Old School will turn into a &#8220;public housing project.&#8221;  Safe, quality and affordable housing for low income residents is in great demand in the area and should be considered an asset in any town.  I continue to be dismayed at the disdain for poor people in Cape Charles.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Kuzma</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2015 14:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding the present plans for the Old School, I am curious as to the actual MARKET for 1 bedroom condos. What is the expected return on investment? What was the project cap rated at? Will this turn into a public housing project when sales projections fall flat? I bet that in regards to development, Mr. Fox and I sit a LOT closer than he thinks. But I stand by my objection to this usage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the present plans for the Old School, I am curious as to the actual MARKET for 1 bedroom condos. What is the expected return on investment? What was the project cap rated at? Will this turn into a public housing project when sales projections fall flat? I bet that in regards to development, Mr. Fox and I sit a LOT closer than he thinks. But I stand by my objection to this usage.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Creed</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2015 13:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Fox is indeed very fond of facts, and as a Good Samaritan, Mr. Kuzma has offered him one, which he may hopefully use to alleviate some of his (historical) ignorance in regards to the Old School. Mike&#039;s idea of moving all services to the Old School and freeing up commercial (revenue generating) real estate was at the time the best, simplest, and most frugal approach. However, the idea’s simplicity and elegance was intellectually too much to grasp for that particular collection of humanity residing at Plum Street (and others); rather than even entertaining it, the Town stupidly did what it always does when confronted with beauty and quality (&quot;what can be done with less is done in vain with more.&quot;). They put the kibosh on it. 
What’s that on the horizon? Why, new offices, in town and at the harbor, to handle the expanding role of government for the 600 people that live in Cape Charles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Fox is indeed very fond of facts, and as a Good Samaritan, Mr. Kuzma has offered him one, which he may hopefully use to alleviate some of his (historical) ignorance in regards to the Old School. Mike&#8217;s idea of moving all services to the Old School and freeing up commercial (revenue generating) real estate was at the time the best, simplest, and most frugal approach. However, the idea’s simplicity and elegance was intellectually too much to grasp for that particular collection of humanity residing at Plum Street (and others); rather than even entertaining it, the Town stupidly did what it always does when confronted with beauty and quality (&#8220;what can be done with less is done in vain with more.&#8221;). They put the kibosh on it.<br />
What’s that on the horizon? Why, new offices, in town and at the harbor, to handle the expanding role of government for the 600 people that live in Cape Charles.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Kuzma</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Kuzma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2015 19:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Fox, I&#039;ll moot all your objections regarding funding, etc., by telling you what I proposed at the time: Move ALL Cape Charles government offices to the Old School, sell the main street [Plum Street] assets since highest and best use DEMANDS that the commercial area generate tax revenue as opposed to off-sheet buildings, and then the EXISTING budget would transfer to a newly resurrected historic gem -- with a Community Center and Library. We would have saved the insurance money, the Library/Bank acquisition money, and have tax-generating property ON MAIN STREET to offset future obligations. Capisce?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Fox, I&#8217;ll moot all your objections regarding funding, etc., by telling you what I proposed at the time: Move ALL Cape Charles government offices to the Old School, sell the main street [Plum Street] assets since highest and best use DEMANDS that the commercial area generate tax revenue as opposed to off-sheet buildings, and then the EXISTING budget would transfer to a newly resurrected historic gem &#8212; with a Community Center and Library. We would have saved the insurance money, the Library/Bank acquisition money, and have tax-generating property ON MAIN STREET to offset future obligations. Capisce?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen K. Fox</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2014 11:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps I am not communicating my thoughts clearly.  It was never my intent to request that others agree with my concepts.  What seems to be clear is that there is a prevailing sense that the existence of the old school building would allow it to be easily and inexpensively transformed into a community center.  Where is the budget for doing that? 

 The building was publicly owned; it had considerable deferred maintenance; it was probably not up to current Codes in many respects  It most likely contains asbestos.  And &quot;if&quot; operated as a community center, how much would it cost to refurbish it?  How much would it cost to operate it (heat, a/c, lights, staff)?  Would it be &quot;free&quot; to users, or would it be subject to user fees?  If, during its operation, a major repair was required (e.g. the roof, window replacement, heating and a/c system), how would that be funded?  The list is endless. 

I seem to recall that &quot;Old School&quot; is not a legal entity, and only came together after the challenged transaction had occurred.  I understand fully the sentiment and attachment to old/historical property, and my purpose in writing is solely to focus attention on major issues that seem to be glossed over.  I have no &quot;dog&quot; in the fight, and the ultimate result is immaterial to me personally. But let&#039;s conjure a scenario in which the new owner decides he bought a white elephant and desires to return its ownership to the Town, as many wish. Then what is the &quot;plan&quot;?  What does it cost? How will it be funded?  These are the considerations whether the building had been retained by the Town, or whether ownership reverts.  Ask Northampton County about the cost of maintaining old school buildings.  

In the end, I hope those who want a community center get it, and the matter is put to rest and the Town can move forward to its next &quot;major&quot; issue in relative peace and harmony, and that discord is only a vehicle to bring focus to issues that require deliberation and decision, not taking on a life of its own.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps I am not communicating my thoughts clearly.  It was never my intent to request that others agree with my concepts.  What seems to be clear is that there is a prevailing sense that the existence of the old school building would allow it to be easily and inexpensively transformed into a community center.  Where is the budget for doing that? </p>
<p> The building was publicly owned; it had considerable deferred maintenance; it was probably not up to current Codes in many respects  It most likely contains asbestos.  And &#8220;if&#8221; operated as a community center, how much would it cost to refurbish it?  How much would it cost to operate it (heat, a/c, lights, staff)?  Would it be &#8220;free&#8221; to users, or would it be subject to user fees?  If, during its operation, a major repair was required (e.g. the roof, window replacement, heating and a/c system), how would that be funded?  The list is endless. </p>
<p>I seem to recall that &#8220;Old School&#8221; is not a legal entity, and only came together after the challenged transaction had occurred.  I understand fully the sentiment and attachment to old/historical property, and my purpose in writing is solely to focus attention on major issues that seem to be glossed over.  I have no &#8220;dog&#8221; in the fight, and the ultimate result is immaterial to me personally. But let&#8217;s conjure a scenario in which the new owner decides he bought a white elephant and desires to return its ownership to the Town, as many wish. Then what is the &#8220;plan&#8221;?  What does it cost? How will it be funded?  These are the considerations whether the building had been retained by the Town, or whether ownership reverts.  Ask Northampton County about the cost of maintaining old school buildings.  </p>
<p>In the end, I hope those who want a community center get it, and the matter is put to rest and the Town can move forward to its next &#8220;major&#8221; issue in relative peace and harmony, and that discord is only a vehicle to bring focus to issues that require deliberation and decision, not taking on a life of its own.</p>
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		<title>By: Veann Duvall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Veann Duvall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2014 03:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Fox -- Don&#039;t be baffled about citizens&#039; concern about the loss of the old school for a community center. A fact that may be of interest to you is that under Cape Charles’ current zoning the Cape Charles School is defined as the Municipal Community Center. In case you are unaware, the Town owned the old school free and clear. There was no need to acquire the building. The expense of fixing it up for public use could have been largely paid with the money spent to write a contract to give it away and the related lawsuits. Estimates are that the Town spent up to a quarter of a million dollars to give away the school.

Tax credits can be used by public entities for community improvements through public-private partnership. Old School Cape Charles was willing to take on that work.

Town Council recently spent $100,000 to buy seven lots at the entrance to the Historic District that hold nothing but a welcome sign. The town paid over $200,000 for the bank building to turn it into a library, removing it from the tax rolls forever. There may well be many empty buildings around town, but there was only one that belonged to town citizens. It was in the park. It had basketball courts inside and outside. It was a town asset.

It is interesting that you note no concern about the insurance scam and the use of town water without paying for it. It seems somewhat fishy that Mr. McCormack has gotten so much from our town for so little.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Fox &#8212; Don&#8217;t be baffled about citizens&#8217; concern about the loss of the old school for a community center. A fact that may be of interest to you is that under Cape Charles’ current zoning the Cape Charles School is defined as the Municipal Community Center. In case you are unaware, the Town owned the old school free and clear. There was no need to acquire the building. The expense of fixing it up for public use could have been largely paid with the money spent to write a contract to give it away and the related lawsuits. Estimates are that the Town spent up to a quarter of a million dollars to give away the school.</p>
<p>Tax credits can be used by public entities for community improvements through public-private partnership. Old School Cape Charles was willing to take on that work.</p>
<p>Town Council recently spent $100,000 to buy seven lots at the entrance to the Historic District that hold nothing but a welcome sign. The town paid over $200,000 for the bank building to turn it into a library, removing it from the tax rolls forever. There may well be many empty buildings around town, but there was only one that belonged to town citizens. It was in the park. It had basketball courts inside and outside. It was a town asset.</p>
<p>It is interesting that you note no concern about the insurance scam and the use of town water without paying for it. It seems somewhat fishy that Mr. McCormack has gotten so much from our town for so little.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen K. Fox</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2014 10:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am baffled by the scenarios played out in the minds of all over this issue.  A call for shifting priorities among various budget items or &quot;would be&quot; budget items is one thing, but where is the budget for operating a community center is the issue I put forth, and how does it compare to the other possible choices for public expenditures, and at what sacrifice in other public needs.  It does not matter where you&#039;re from or how you got to where you are, these are realities you&#039;d have to wrestle with. There are many empty buildings in CCVA which could serve the purpose......give the Town a proposed budget for leasing and operating it, and demonstrate how it would be funded.  It can&#039;t be run on rhetoric alone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am baffled by the scenarios played out in the minds of all over this issue.  A call for shifting priorities among various budget items or &#8220;would be&#8221; budget items is one thing, but where is the budget for operating a community center is the issue I put forth, and how does it compare to the other possible choices for public expenditures, and at what sacrifice in other public needs.  It does not matter where you&#8217;re from or how you got to where you are, these are realities you&#8217;d have to wrestle with. There are many empty buildings in CCVA which could serve the purpose&#8230;&#8230;give the Town a proposed budget for leasing and operating it, and demonstrate how it would be funded.  It can&#8217;t be run on rhetoric alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Banks</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Banks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2014 02:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MILLIONS in property for $10 and millions in tax credits? I won&#039;t say that is false, but please show me the math. Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MILLIONS in property for $10 and millions in tax credits? I won&#8217;t say that is false, but please show me the math. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Creed</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wayne Creed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2014 15:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The comment by Mr. Fox is indicative of just how successful the Town has been in its propaganda campaign. The old  adage “If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with BS” certainly holds true here. The level of ignorance involved in the old school affair, I still find mind boggling.  “If” the Town had taken no actions, nothing but further deterioration of the building would have occurred.”  

Actually, the fact that the town did nothing is the reason the structure deteriorated in the first place. Also, the same millions in tax credits the developer is poised to gorge himself on were also available to the Town. Just ask the DHR [Department of Historic Resources], they’ll tell you. In other words, had the Town worked with the community, millions could have been spent on rehabilitating the school, creating a pretty nice athletic multiplex for our kids. Old School Cape Charles knew this, and this is why we fought so hard to keep the building public.

As far as budgets, we have monies for new libraries, floating docks, advertising space, et.al. It seems budgeting for athletics, probably a nominal sum, would seem like an unselfish, worthwhile thing to do. Jen Lewis is awesome, and I believe given the opportunity, she could have done some pretty fantastic things with the old school.

Notes from the Dark Side: In Blackstone, it was found that this very same developer was actually paying one of the Council members for services. There are also allegations that a quid pro quo was also proffered.  Did that happen here?

Notes from the Light Side: Mr. Wendell is completely on point.

It doesn’t have to be over. Mr. McCormick walked away with millions in property for just $10, usurped $40 grand in insurance funds, and will eventually abscond with millions more in tax credits (our taxes). The key is to derail the tax credit gravy train. Call or email the DHR and voice your concerns here:
Julie Langan
DHR Director &amp; State Historic Preservaton Officer
&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:julie.langan@dhr.virginia.gov&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;julie.langan@dhr.virginia.gov&lt;/a&gt;
(804) 482-6087]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comment by Mr. Fox is indicative of just how successful the Town has been in its propaganda campaign. The old  adage “If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with BS” certainly holds true here. The level of ignorance involved in the old school affair, I still find mind boggling.  “If” the Town had taken no actions, nothing but further deterioration of the building would have occurred.”  </p>
<p>Actually, the fact that the town did nothing is the reason the structure deteriorated in the first place. Also, the same millions in tax credits the developer is poised to gorge himself on were also available to the Town. Just ask the DHR [Department of Historic Resources], they’ll tell you. In other words, had the Town worked with the community, millions could have been spent on rehabilitating the school, creating a pretty nice athletic multiplex for our kids. Old School Cape Charles knew this, and this is why we fought so hard to keep the building public.</p>
<p>As far as budgets, we have monies for new libraries, floating docks, advertising space, et.al. It seems budgeting for athletics, probably a nominal sum, would seem like an unselfish, worthwhile thing to do. Jen Lewis is awesome, and I believe given the opportunity, she could have done some pretty fantastic things with the old school.</p>
<p>Notes from the Dark Side: In Blackstone, it was found that this very same developer was actually paying one of the Council members for services. There are also allegations that a quid pro quo was also proffered.  Did that happen here?</p>
<p>Notes from the Light Side: Mr. Wendell is completely on point.</p>
<p>It doesn’t have to be over. Mr. McCormick walked away with millions in property for just $10, usurped $40 grand in insurance funds, and will eventually abscond with millions more in tax credits (our taxes). The key is to derail the tax credit gravy train. Call or email the DHR and voice your concerns here:<br />
Julie Langan<br />
DHR Director &#038; State Historic Preservaton Officer<br />
<a href="mailto:julie.langan@dhr.virginia.gov" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">julie.langan@dhr.virginia.gov</a><br />
(804) 482-6087</p>
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